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SpaceX Deep Cryo LOX Discussion

Author: Geoff

Aug. 12, 2024

SpaceX Deep Cryo LOX Discussion


I think that obsessing over either type of performance if it ends up making operations a ton more challenging may be foolish.
I don't see why this should be a lot of hassle in the long term.  You keep a tank of cold LOX and a tank of cold RP-1 near the pad.  The LOX tank is already vacuum insulated and the RP-1 tank is only -8 C, which requires no exotic insulation.  Keeping the tanks cold is well developed industrial technology, and with no weight limit it can be redundant.  So it's hard to see launches scrubbed or delayed because of insufficient cooled fuels.

Filling the rocket should be little different once you recalibrate and adjust your pumps/valves/pre-chill/etc for the lower temperatures.  Keeping it cold during a long launch hold might involve pumping the warm liquid from the top of the tank and refilling with cold liquid from the bottom.  As long as you have a big enough supply of cold liquid this does not seem particularly difficult (presuming the booster is plumbed for this, which I'd assume it is).

You now have to worry about water/ice condensing on your RP-1 handling equipment.  But this has always been true of LOX, so I suspect this is stock technology.

So what kind of long-term hassles do people foresee?



I don't see why this should be a lot of hassle in the long term. You keep a tank of cold LOX and a tank of cold RP-1 near the pad. The LOX tank is already vacuum insulated and the RP-1 tank is only -8 C, which requires no exotic insulation. Keeping the tanks cold is well developed industrial technology, and with no weight limit it can be redundant. So it's hard to see launches scrubbed or delayed because of insufficient cooled fuels.Filling the rocket should be little different once you recalibrate and adjust your pumps/valves/pre-chill/etc for the lower temperatures. Keeping it cold during a long launch hold might involve pumping the warm liquid from the top of the tank and refilling with cold liquid from the bottom. As long as you have a big enough supply of cold liquid this does not seem particularly difficult (presuming the booster is plumbed for this, which I'd assume it is).You now have to worry about water/ice condensing on your RP-1 handling equipment. But this has always been true of LOX, so I suspect this is stock technology.So what kind of long-term hassles do people foresee?

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